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03/23/14 @ 6:30pm EDT #47881 test
Updated 12/27/16
Welcome to the Community-Moderated Forum
You are welcome to post at will to the forum, as long as you follow the three guidelines below. Our goal with these guidelines is to make the forum a place you can discuss Objectivism and share news of interest to Objectivists, and know the comments will be courteous and worth reading.
1. Assume the members of the forum are your allies.
If you disagree with something someone says, please assume there is a mistake, a confusion, or a different context, and behave accordingly. It is a widely recognized danger of discussion groups that they easily degenerate into “flames “–i.e., inflammatory back-and-forth arguments, often with personal attacks, among participants. This is a triple mistake on HBL:
- The purpose of HBL is friendly discussion with like-minded people
- Members on HBL share basic values. We are allies in a historic battle, and deserve to be treated as allies.
- We share the view that justice is a virtue.
We urge you to maintain a collegial, 19th-century-style attitude toward other posts and other posters. If you are angry at a post, wait until you are calm to respond. Here’s a contrived example:
First post:
From Immanuel Kant:
There has been too much emphasis by HBLers on reason and values. Reason can deal only with the phenomenal world, not with things as they really are in themselves, and values introduce a subjective element into morality, because they depend on a lone individual’s personal choices (though these “choices” are deterministic responses, considered phenomenally).
Sample reply post illustrating proper etiquette:
From John Doe:
On the subject of whether there has been too much emphasis here on reason and values, the truth is exactly the opposite: only by reference to reason and values can we grasp reality and remain in reality. I reject any alleged distinction between a “phenomenal” realm and “things as they really are”–“‘Things as they are’ are things as perceived by your mind'” (Galt’s Speech). Values are not subjective (or intrinsic) but *objective* . . .
2. Edit for objectivity
First, follow the rules of grammar. Use words, not abbreviations. Write in full sentences. Punctuate and capitalize. Spell check. Use paragraphs. (Break up long paragraphs, even when it seems arbitrary as to where to do so. Long paragraphs are uninviting to the reader.)
Second, ask yourself whether someone reading your post could understand it without needing to read your mind. Subjectivity is rampant in our culture; don’t let it seep into your post.
The 13 most common stylistic and grammatical slip-ups found in HBL posts are listed here: https://new-staging.hblist.com/forums/topic/grammar-and-style-on-hbl/
3. Keep it short but substantive
The more you can essentialize, the more interesting your post will be, and the more likely it will be to draw readers. We used to enforce a 400-word limit, which is a good rule of thumb. If you can edit down to that length, your post will be better.
But we are not encouraging length over substance. Have something substantive to say to the readership of HBL.
If you just want to communicate the words “good post,” send that privately. (And do. “It is more important to reward the good than to punish the bad.”)
However, if you would like to write two sentences explaining why you think this is such a good post–that’s substantive, and we encourage you to post it to the forum.
Posts that don’t meet these guidelines may be deleted by our community-moderators. Repeated or egregious cases may result in the poster losing his posting privileges.
When starting a new topic . . .
If you’re starting a new topic, you have the responsibility of naming it. The name of the topic is something very different from the headline you give your particular post. The topic is the more general subject-matter, such as “The Electoral College,” and doesn’t include your particular viewpoint on the topic. Suppose you support the electoral college; then your post’s title (its “headline”) could be: “The electoral college helps keep the peace.” Or it could be something more colorful, like “Banana Republic–No!” But launching a topic means starting a continuing thread of posts, both pro and con posts on that topic. So, the topic title should be neutral and informative.
“Statistics? You want statistics?” and “Xylophone has arrived” are fine as headlines for a particular post, but mystifying as topic names (which our old system made them become).Â
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11/21/14 @ 1:32pm EST #55478 test
What do the “star ratings” mean. Â Is one star “pretty lousy but better than nothing”? Â Or “Duly noted. Keep your posts coming”?
Is 3 stars “this is mediocre”? Â Or “this was quite interesting”? Â And so on. Â Hovering over the stars does not explain the meanings.
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11/21/14 @ 5:58pm EST #55479 test
I find the star ratings confusing, too. I would rather see up-voting and down-voting. A reader could offer a single up-vote to a post or comment that he has any degree of positive inclination toward, analogous to a “Like” on Facebook. A down-vote would represent some degree of negative evaluation. A down-vote might ought to require an explanatory comment, too, or be otherwise encouraged as a courtesy to the author.
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07/22/15 @ 8:53pm EDT #57845 test
In response to customer requests, the star rating system has been dropped.
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03/05/16 @ 8:16pm EST #61644 test
Re: Jean Moroney Binswanger’s post 47881 of 03/23/14 at 6:30pm
Is this the right place to ask questions about posting policy, like what kind of posts are permitted or not permitted?
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03/06/16 @ 2:52pm EST #61652 test
Re: Brian McDaniel’s post 61644 of 03/06/16 at 1:16am
Not really–email me at hb@alum.mit.edu
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04/08/16 @ 10:55pm EDT #62706 test
Re: Harry Binswanger’s post 61652 of 03/06/16 at 2:52pm
When I signed up with the old HBL (the one that didn’t have a website), I was informed by a welcoming email that I can share posts from HBL with people outside in a limited fashion. As I recall, it was 3 posts per months to a three people each. Does the same policy or similar one exist with the new HBLetter? Â
If the answer is “yes”, then I have two follow up questions. Does the sharing policy apply only to Harry Binswanger’s posts or to any post at the Member Forum ? And, about those outside people with whom I’d share — are they themselves allowed to reshare with their friends?
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04/09/16 @ 12:23pm EDT #62721 test
Re: Boris Reitman’s post 62706 of 04/09/16 at 2:55am
In answer to your question, the same forwarding policy is in place, and it applies to anyone’s post. See http://www.hbletter.com/support about halfway down the page. And thanks for asking.
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06/02/16 @ 5:07pm EDT #63805 test
Anyone else not getting subscribed thread emails alerts anymore? It has been about a month from my email history…
Unless of course I did something to cause this!
Conspiracies abound! joking of course

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06/03/16 @ 3:58pm EDT #63820 test
I haven’t been getting any.
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06/04/16 @ 12:39am EDT #63826 test
Re: Betsy Speicher’s post 63820 of 6/3/16
   One-line summary: I had our developer disable the email notifications, because were unable to find a way to make them behave correctly. They were not only badly formatted, the dropped whole paragraphs under certain conditions. Ever since the beginning, I was getting a steady stream of complaints about them–particularly from people who were getting them automatically by virtue of having posted on a thread. They confused these RSS notifications with the emails I send out.
I’m not sorry to see them go: they encouraged too much quick, shoot-from-the-hip back-and-forth exchanges. HBL posts should be more considered and thoughtful.
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02/10/17 @ 3:24pm EST #67660 test
Re: Jean Moroney Binswanger’s post 47881 of 3/23/14
I find the continued usage of “Rump” & “Duck” as not fitting of HBL, but alas it is not my judgment to make. Overall I find it detracts from the poster’s overall argument as to not take it seriously.
/sb
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02/10/17 @ 7:32pm EST #67672 test
Re: Jesse Forgues’ post 67660 of 2/10/17
Au contraire – the present regime deserves all the ridicule that one can cast. I referred to the previous POTUS as “President Zero,” and I do not believe that this detracted from the seriousness of discussion. The present POTUS seriously deserves at least the following:
“Duck,” for Il Duce Donald.
“Corleone,” for armed robbery (“eminent domain”) – google Trump at Institute for Justice.
“le Putain,” for his entente with Putin, and for Petain, the Hitler-loving French politician who set the precedent.
This is a time when one cannot do justice without a fair dose of humor. Of course it is up to Harry, but I hope.
*sb
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02/11/17 @ 12:09pm EST #67680 test
Re: Adam Reed’s post 67672 of 2/11/17
I am pro-humor, but making up ugly names for people is cheap and degrading. No more Rump and Duck, please.
*sb
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02/12/17 @ 9:25pm EST #67716 test
Re: Harry Binswanger’s post 67680 of 2/11/17
I am pro-humor, but making up ugly names for people is cheap and degrading. No more Rump and Duck, please.
A name flame is not an argument.
*sb
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03/20/17 @ 12:18pm EDT #68172 test
Re: Jean Moroney Binswanger’s post 47881 of 3/23/14
l have received permission from HB to delete–without further review or notification–any post that uses 4-letter words referring to bodily processes. I just deleted several referring to excrement.Â
HBL is an intellectual endeavor.
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